tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post8638373736208356457..comments2024-02-18T00:44:19.202-08:00Comments on A Viable Commercial: SHADOWS AS TALL AS TREES EPgoutroyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06399738830558221803noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-40110430549934570002013-03-31T12:07:30.027-07:002013-03-31T12:07:30.027-07:00It's been so long since the last post that I d...It's been so long since the last post that I don't know if anyone will even see this. But I felt compelled to post something after rediscovering this EP, which I played into the ground around the time of its release and for a few years afterward, through a post on Facebook. I was a huge San Jose "First Strike" music fan, and though I never knew this band to be an official part of it (really wanted to see them live, but never got the chance), this stands as one of my favorite recordings from the time. I've kept in touch with quite a few of the musicians, still listen to some of the music, and have always wished this had been a full EP. I said it then, and I'll say it now—"Don't Cry" should have been a huge hit song, and you guys should have been rich and famous. Short of that, thanks for the music, which still sounds great today...Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14343707251093989431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-90580400723225716902011-07-04T14:33:58.763-07:002011-07-04T14:33:58.763-07:00hello, i would like to read more information about...hello, i would like to read more information about this interesting topic.Invertir en orohttp://www.ibericaconsultores.com/inversion-en-oro/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-46398385730403130092011-06-10T18:21:38.975-07:002011-06-10T18:21:38.975-07:00Hi Diego here again. @James & Scott Stimson, i...Hi Diego here again. @James & Scott Stimson, if you are on Facebook, you can find me here:<br />http://www.facebook.com/people/Diego-Cisternas/1031984999<br /><br />Hope to re-connect. Cheers! DiegoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-50138323072861770752011-06-10T18:07:56.633-07:002011-06-10T18:07:56.633-07:00Hello Scott & James Stimson and everyone here....Hello Scott & James Stimson and everyone here...There is a One Step Beyond Reunion coming up Saturday, July 30, 2011 at Club Illusions in Palo Alto (Formerly The Edge/Vortex). All you cats should really try to make it. Will be Fantastic. Here's the Facebook Invite link: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/event.php?eid=131961263548553<br /><br />Or the official website will be published in a couple of days...so check that periodically: http://onestepbeyondreunion.com/<br /><br />Stan kent, the crew & I will love to see you. Cheers! Diego (from the band Bolero back in the days)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-24403173244717280862011-02-24T17:11:32.173-08:002011-02-24T17:11:32.173-08:00The Problem (depression mix) video now up: http:/...The Problem (depression mix) video now up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzt-oAJujcAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-81086686135052116912011-02-19T09:06:36.356-08:002011-02-19T09:06:36.356-08:00I've uploaded a video I made for Now Don't...I've uploaded a video I made for Now Don't Cry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH7SGkGR8JYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-51765236273519361802011-02-17T14:29:51.622-08:002011-02-17T14:29:51.622-08:00Hi all--I only just rediscovered this page and cau...Hi all--I only just rediscovered this page and caught up with comments. Unfortunately I am to and fro Sri Lanka for significant periods of time and it's easy for email updates to sneak past me.<br /><br />To everyone: I'm enjoying your comments. A special time of life for sure. Lots of memories created. I'm still a fan of a number of bands from those times and occasionally break out the vinyl. One of my faves was Epic Rumors.... I might have to give them another listen soon.<br /><br />@Craig--Would love to catch up soon! I checked out your site and LOVE your work. As usual! You've always been a pioneer.<br /><br />@Scott--Always a special place in my heart for you my friend. I really shouldn't have been so clumsy with my wording to start things off a while back. That said, I DID write the bass lines for two of the four songs on the EP. The rest I just played and added some of my own flare. <br /><br />Whatever the case, while it was important to me way back when, it's of little concern now. I never really considered myself much of a bass player to begin with! (James was the man even in that area....) <br /><br />I'd love to catch up with you Scott. Would love to meet your children. <br /><br />I hope you're both (and all the rest I haven't met) doing wonderfully this 2011. <br /><br />--SeanUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00563595951413498316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-7477519899723210242011-02-08T18:21:42.565-08:002011-02-08T18:21:42.565-08:00Can not believe I found this! Craig, how did I not...Can not believe I found this! Craig, how did I not realize you lived with Scott?? I didn't know Scott well, just a crush and a date once, but loved the music these guys played.<br /><br />So fun to catch up on everyone!<br /><br />HarleneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-45420617071987595482011-01-03T09:17:05.172-08:002011-01-03T09:17:05.172-08:00The budding new music tycoon...lol
http://www.fac...The budding new music tycoon...lol<br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1537572011232&set=t.731007104Craig Allyn Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09132617119589742769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-71954590270598704702010-12-21T23:09:53.760-08:002010-12-21T23:09:53.760-08:00I hung out with the Sean for short time and I can ...I hung out with the Sean for short time and I can honestly say they were all the nicest guys and we all thought they were gonna be huge. I would also be interested in hearing Red Weather again. Also really nice guys and one of them recorded a movie soundtrack for a non existent horror movie. I remember that it blew my mind. Lots of shoulder pads in those days.Jason Dryghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10987781266000000359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-12779438163571276402010-11-29T08:11:39.307-08:002010-11-29T08:11:39.307-08:00Only one thing left to say - Bora Bora - cheers al...Only one thing left to say - Bora Bora - cheers all!<br /><br />-C-C. A. Rosehttp://emergencyphoto.zenfolio.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-68371040021706539382010-11-10T14:34:50.009-08:002010-11-10T14:34:50.009-08:00Scott:
My four year old son is, at this very mome...Scott:<br /><br />My four year old son is, at this very moment, playing golf with one of your drumsticks, signed by you no less! He's hitting a little shaker egg all over the room. I found the drumstick a few weeks ago in my mom's garage.<br /><br />You were a neat person to know in high school. I hope I wasn't too annoying back then, and hope that you are well.<br /><br />Karen R.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-90616375286802228942010-10-16T01:00:01.885-07:002010-10-16T01:00:01.885-07:00Worth sharing this information. Good Work
multime...Worth sharing this information. Good Work<br /> <a href="http://www.designscopia.com/products/multimedia/" rel="nofollow">multimedia design</a> | <a href="http://www.designscopia.com/products/print-material/buntings-and-flags.asp" rel="nofollow">bunting design</a>bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06360639015737954709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-80120886755040507092010-08-23T19:42:43.288-07:002010-08-23T19:42:43.288-07:00I think it's awesome reading posts about frien...I think it's awesome reading posts about friends reunited. Hey it looks like this one went down the mediafire drain. Any chance of a re-upload goutroy?Remind Me To Smilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18216399952746225729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-76305240518232657922010-06-13T09:46:21.907-07:002010-06-13T09:46:21.907-07:00~Scott, thank you so much for posting all the info...~Scott, thank you so much for posting all the information and answering questions!! I just knew if I kept coming back to this page that one day SOMEONE would surface. <br /><br />I look forward (hopefully) to One Step Beyond video(s), and new music from you.<br /><br /><3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-23286096944207505712010-06-03T11:43:20.845-07:002010-06-03T11:43:20.845-07:00I am trying to download the album but am not able ...I am trying to download the album but am not able to. If there is any other way I could get it, please let me know. I really enjoyed this album.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-87445478949492060582010-05-19T10:03:15.942-07:002010-05-19T10:03:15.942-07:00Hey Scott ... Sid here,
Thanks for the lengthy re...Hey Scott ... Sid here,<br /><br />Thanks for the lengthy reply. I'm sure anyone who is following this thread or comes across it will appreciate it. I was a big fan of the San Jose Music scene in the mid to late 80's (Remember First Strike). Your band was def. a favorite. Thanks for the kind words about my bass playing. <br /><br />As far as my musical career, I ended up forming a duo as well. I created all the music on my Ensoniq 8-bit sampler. We did a 4 song demo which got us an opening spot for DEVO in 1990 at the Oasis in San Jose. That was our high water mark and split a few months later. We were called Detsky Mir. I'm sure no one heard of us, but it was a lot of fun.<br /><br />A few more years of cover bands before I sold off my gear. On the plus side, writing music on my Mac Plus lead me into design, development, web programming and I just got my first iPhone app approved. ;-)<br /><br />I still break out my acoustic guitar and do command performances of "What I Like About You" or as my 4 year old calls it "The Hey Song"<br /><br />Scott... if you have any old video you can put on YouTube I'm sure people would love it. One Step Beyond!<br /><br />And if you come across a copy of Red Weather's CD can I get a copy? My was lost over the years. I've got Colour Scream (Across the Sky) if you want it. Mike Long was my room mate. LOLAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07093168025342515035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-5653666730270275852010-05-06T11:37:13.005-07:002010-05-06T11:37:13.005-07:00Scott from the band.... continued
Seems I managed...Scott from the band.... continued<br /><br />Seems I managed to not include a sentence while cutting and pasting. <br /><br />I just recently got my studio setup and running and plan to start writing again. Who knows what will come of it, but I will make the music available online.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />ScottAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-80327893901459151412010-05-06T11:25:45.301-07:002010-05-06T11:25:45.301-07:00Scott from the band.... continued
James has been ...Scott from the band.... continued<br /><br />James has been busy writing and illustrating children's books. You should definitely check them out if you have the time. I believe Sid provided links, but he is published by Chronicle Books. He has also worked as a character designer for the stop animation film James and the Giant Peach. He was heavily involved with the "dream sequence" in that movie.<br /><br />James has been doing pretty much what I have been doing for several years, just tinkering with music. This last year he has written quite a bit of wonderful stuff. He plans to compile his favorites and release them some time soon as well, probably via the web.<br /><br />The "stop hating your father ", etc. part of The Problem remix was recorded from my car stereo in the parking lot of Sensa Studios at around 1:00 am. The dialog came from a late night psychology talk show we just stumbled across when taking a break from recording. We ran inside and asked Kevin to run a mic out to the car to capture the dialog.<br /><br />I must say, I think that part of the album concerned our dad very much. We informed him that it was just a random discussion we found on the radio and it worked so well we stuck it in. Dad, if you ever read this, know it's true!<br /><br />Now that I think of it, the parking lot was quite an inspiration. Some of the percussion in Now Don't Cry was created by recording an aluminum ladder that was thrown across the parking lot. I later triggered the sound via an old Linn Drum module and Simmons pads. God those things sucked! It was like playing a plywood drum set - absolutely no dynamics! What was I thinking!<br /><br />Anyway, the production quality was very good on the album and that was entirely due to our producer, Kevin Gilbert. He was phenomenal. Since we where low budget and he liked our music he recorded us at a discount. The only way we could use the studio at the lower price was to record when it was empty... the middle of the night. Recording was always a joy and I'm grateful to have known Kevin. He was very talented, but most of all he was a good person.<br /><br />Ok, I have carried on way too long.<br /><br />Goutroy, thanks for the forum. Any chance you have any info on Red Weather? That's what originally brought me down the path to your blog.<br /><br />Best of luck to you and thanks for remembering the music!<br /><br />Thanks,<br />ScottAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-47481200558720465112010-05-06T11:25:21.775-07:002010-05-06T11:25:21.775-07:00Scott from the band.... continued
Sid - Great to ...Scott from the band.... continued<br /><br />Sid - Great to hear from you. Are you still making music? You where absolutely great when we auditioned you. With the recent shake-ups we just chose to see if we could perform with just the two of us for a while. If any of you saw those shows I would like to apologize now.... boy, they where not very good (at least from my perspective on stage).<br /><br />What happened then? Well, James and I had not completed any new material since about 1986. Mainly because both of our musical interests had changed, both in very different directions.... I think in past bands that we played together in we really didn't care much if our ideas where different - we would just keep banging the ideas together and enjoy the process along the way. Now people where actually listening and that added pressure to have some cohesiveness to the work.<br /><br />Ultimately, we decided to disband. Lot's of tears, etc. but James is still my brother and best friend. Always has been, always will be! Love you Bro!<br /><br />After Shadows As Tall As Trees I wrote about two albums worth of music under the guise of Deep Blue Dream. I never really polished the songs into anything I felt was ready for release as an album, but some of the instrumental work has been used in documentaries.<br /><br />I did work with some great musicians in the studio (Duck Ranch Studio) - Sean Kelly, Desmond Gribbin, Brian McMahon, Leigh Newsome, Kevin ___ (so sorry, I forgot your last name). It was a lot of fun.<br /><br />For a short period I worked with a close friend, Brian McMahon, and created a commercial music business. We had minor success, but we found that music for commercials was not really a strong interest for us. After having to listen to a really bad actor in a Ragu commercial deliver his lines over and over again we where ready to focus elsewhere....<br /><br />I have since become an Graphic Designer with a focus on web and multimedia design and development. A little animation thrown in as well. I'm married and have two beautiful girls. That said, I have not done any music outside of evening jam sessions with the girls for a good seven years now. Who knows what will come out!<br /><br />I plan to release the music online once I get rolling. You can probably find it if you google Scott Stimson, Don't count on hearing anything soon. I have two young girls to look after as my first priority. :)<br /><br />I've reached my character limit for the posting, so I will continue below...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-80700278810946583342010-05-06T11:24:57.323-07:002010-05-06T11:24:57.323-07:00Scott from the band.... continued
I thought I wou...Scott from the band.... continued<br /><br />I thought I would attempt to answer some of the questions and iron out some inaccuracies in the discussion. Not sure if any of you are still checking this thread or even care....<br /><br />Goutroy, you are correct. The band was my brother James and myself. All of the music we where performing at shows and on the EP was written by the two of us between 1982 - 1986. Sean was brought on as our live bass player with the option to join the band in the future depending on how we gelled as a writing team. <br /><br />Sean's timeline about quitting the band prior to the release of the record and loosing credit due to the separation is not an accurate description. Sean was actually performing with us at the time that we recorded the EP. He also played the record release show at One Step Beyond and all but the bands last two shows.<br /><br />Since Sean was performing live with us and he knew the material we asked if he would like to record Now Don't Cry and Care for the EP as a "work for hire". A work for hire document is a legal document stating that the performer on the recording is only a performer and is not the "creator" of the music - it's fairly standard in the music business. At the time of recording Sean was in agreement with those statements and signed the work for hire documents. The signed documents are on file with the library of congress along with James and my copyright of the songs. <br /><br />The recordings of Now Don't Cry and Care would not have been what they where if it was not for Sean's style and interpretation of the original baselines. Sean did absolutely beautiful work on everything he touched, but bottom line, the melody and basic structure was the work of James.<br /><br />At some point the stress of our differences in opinion on the subject of who wrote the music brought us to the mutual decision that we should no longer work together.<br /><br />This time was particularly tough because Sean was a very close friend. Obviously, our friendship got us through because Sean and I did work together afterward on a new project that I was doing.<br /><br />I've reached my character limit for the posting, so I will continue below...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-11950556234122037462010-05-06T11:24:30.980-07:002010-05-06T11:24:30.980-07:00Hello,
It's Scott from the band....
I see th...Hello,<br /><br />It's Scott from the band....<br /><br />I see this is an old thread with the exception of Craig's post, but I just stumbled across it today. I was actually poking around the web in an effort to see if I could catch-up with the guys from Red Weather... remember that band? They where such kind and talented guys. <br /><br />Anyway, I was playing the drums yesterday and came up with a rhythm that reminded me of something Josh from Red Weather might have played. It inspired me to google the band. No luck though. I proceeded to look up other bands from the past with no luck. I finally thought I would see if there was anything out there on Shadows As Tall As Trees and hit on this blog. <br /><br />The last time I looked to see if there was anything on the web related to SATAT was over ten years ago. At that time, to my dismay, I discovered that our master tapes stored at Sensa Studios had been auctioned off for charity since the studio could not catch up with James or me to pick them up when they closed their doors. Reason enough to wait ten years to look again, yeah?<br /><br />I have to say, I'm quite surprised anyone out there is still interested in the music, but I'm glad to hear that there are some who still enjoy it. <br /><br />Sean, Craig, I miss you both very much. I have been trying for years to catch up with you guys. I'll definitely ping you, Craig, in the next few days since you left your email address.<br /><br />I've reached my character limit for the posting, so I will continue below...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-77913158050940064702010-04-17T21:24:02.831-07:002010-04-17T21:24:02.831-07:00Hi All -
I too have a connection, of sorts, to S...Hi All - <br /><br />I too have a connection, of sorts, to SATAT. Sean will remember me from a couple of kinda wild evenings.<br /><br />I lived with Scott, and actually funded the manufacturing of this EP. That's a long story in and of itself. Yes, it was a band of brothers, but in retrospect, I think that was the very thing that killed the band.<br /><br />Sean was a really good guy, and I miss him a lot. As for James and Scott, have had little contact with them, but miss them both.<br /><br />Sean, if you read this, feel free to drop me an email at:<br /><br />craigallynrose@gmail.com<br /><br />http://www.emergencyphoto.comCraig Allyn Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09132617119589742769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-85587893461306408252010-01-11T13:10:40.528-08:002010-01-11T13:10:40.528-08:00I'd love a copy of this - would you please re-...I'd love a copy of this - would you please re-upload it so others can get a copy? Thank you!!<br /><br />or could you send mp3s here:<br />db@dawaynebailey.comDawayne Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13937256817302488117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7245768442595406134.post-80834271241839702572009-08-01T16:06:08.782-07:002009-08-01T16:06:08.782-07:00Wow! Thanks Sean, for all that info!Wow! Thanks Sean, for all that info!goutroyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06399738830558221803noreply@blogger.com